Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Stephen George's avatar

Really important piece, Mark. Not surprisingly, there's a lot here that resonates deeply with my world and experience — and certainly been arguing for — over many years.

Your central point is spot on: the sector is obsessed with the front end. But the real question — what keeps a charity in a will when the donor is 85 — barely gets asked. Its a great case you've made.

The shift from legacy marketing to legacy influence is something I feel has it been at the heart of entire legacy journey and history so I completely concur. Measuring consideration as much as commitment. Building culture, not just campaigns. The Fastmap evidence and the Australian probate data reinforce much of this — a pledge is not a promise. It's a moment in time. And if we don't understand the full journey from connection to completion, we're celebrating seeds without knowing if they'll survive to harvest ( love a metaphor!).

Marginal and nuanced push back is on the 1% reframing.

I completely agree with the underlying insight. The story you described around the reaction to the 1% totallly mirrored the focus group story I shared in Brighton years ago. We tested percentages — 1%, 5%, 10%. The group got it, but they didn't want a number. It interfered with their own thinking. When the facilitator suggested "a small share" instead, the room shifted. It wasn't judgmental. It didn't dictate. It made the concept accessible without boxing people in. Both are not about engagement. Both reflect framing. The architecture of the decision. We're violently in agreement on that.

Its just that the difference is I see 1% not as a door-opener but a ceiling-setter. 1% sounds like a tax. A commission. A service charge. It anchors low. And it doesn't use the behavioural science we know works — anchoring around what most people do, with some doing more and some doing less. What does a small share look like for them?

But your broader argument — that the sector needs to understand what donors need at the end of life, not just the beginning — is exactly right. That's definately the frontier and the adjustment. One other small thing...the entry point at an early age isnt wrong - its a long process and consideration so planting early really matters - so its not one or the other -both matter, and your challenge on not enough at the other end that matters is charecteristically well made and argued.

Great post.

Ryan Turner's avatar

Well stated Mark, thank you. From my niche overseas perspective, the conversation is most definitely something that happens way too late among charities and donors. So many groups don't know what donors need because they honestly never asked or built any genuine relationship with donors beyond the giving.

I can point to a number of good causes that really whiffed it when it came to small and mid-size donations during a donor's lifetime that were treated as transactional items or something that they were simply entitled to. One day, they simply received a gift, maybe it recurred over time, maybe it grew in size occasionally. But usually never with any questions asked, or any engagement with the donor. The giving stopped when the donor passed on, or for any other number of reasons.

I can think of a few instances where I was brought in to review past giving patterns for some organizations. It turns out there were more than a few donors who had only started their giving later in life. But the groups had never stopped to acknowledge them, or even honor them in their final stages. It's maddening and frustrating, but still so widely ingrained. And then groups will belatedly say they wish they had known more or done more.

On a positive note: Last year, one client nonprofit was told by a donor in their last stages that their organization would be a primary beneficiary in their will. It caught the client completely off-guard. The personal relationship between the client and donor stretched back decades, never involved any previous donations whatsover. No one even knew the extent of the individual's financial situation. Turns out they had been a quiet giver to numerous causes over their lifetime, treating each as a patient investment. When I asked the donor directly what made them decide my organizational client was the right thing for them, the donor said "Because they involved me. I'm older and alone. They gave me a community. They gave me something to do. They gave me people to connect to. They made me feel like the time I have left matters. My bequest is the least I can do in return." Their gift, which will pay out over several years, is designed to ensure dedicate income that is certain and stable over time. It was the last revision made to their will. Their one request was that it not be about them, but about the community made possible through the organization.

I'm still letting that conversation, and your broader framing, sit with me as I rethink how to help other charities over here to rework their assumptions in this regard. Beyond the gift and the giving, every relationship matters. It's not about the money, but the meaning behind it. And never make any assumptions about where people are starting from or closing towards. Connection and communication are so essential to making this special type of giving doable for donors and feasible for charities.

1 more comment...

No posts

Ready for more?